Monday, February 27, 2006
Stripes -or- Scourging
Question: You claim that the payment for sins was not through the physical sufferings of Christ inflicted by man, but spiritual sufferings endured at the hands of God. Yet Isaiah 53:5 says “...and by his stripes we are healed.” The NASB has, “...and by his scourging we are healed.” Please admit your error!
Answer: The NASB is wrong. The Hebrew chabburah translated “stripes” occurs six other times (Gn 4:23; Ex 21:25; Ps 38:5; Prv 20:30; Is 1:6) and it never means Roman scourging. Do you really think (as Mel Gibson’s film erroneously attempts to show) that Roman soldiers’ torture of Christ paid the eternal penalty for all of the murders, rapes, wars, hatred, jealousy, and unimaginable evil committed by billions of people during the history of mankind? Sinful soldiers can’t mete out to the Holy Son of God the righteous punishment for the sins of the world!
Peter specifically says Christ paid for our sins on the cross (1 Pt 2:24), not when scourged. It was during those 3 hours of darkness on the Cross that God laid on Christ the infinite penalty for the sins of the world-and only when He had paid for our sins in full did He cry in triumph, “It is finished!” Not because of His scourging, but as a result of what Christ accomplished on the Cross, the rocks were split, the earth quaked and the veil of the temple was ripped open (Mt 27:51).
First Peter 2:24 indicates that the healing by “stripes” is not from disease (as some teach) but from sin: “Who his own self bare our sins....” That this refers to spiritual punishment is clear: “thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin” (Is 53:10). Like the soul, sin itself, though expressed in physical acts, is spiritual: “For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness...” (Mk 7:21,22).
Salvation is spiritual and can only be by faith. To receive forgiveness of sins and eternal life as a gift from God is the greatest spiritual good conceivable. Physical punishment executed by sinful men could never make that gift possible. Thus the physical stripes Christ received in fulfillment of prophecy could not pay the penalty for sin; only God’s spiritual punishment could do that.
Healing from sin and its penalty is what the gospel is all about: “How that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures” (1 Cor 15:3)-not that “Christ died for our physical ailments.” The promise, “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved” (Acts 16:31) clearly pertains to salvation from sin, not from disease. Christians in general are neither healthier nor live longer in this life than unbelievers -but we have eternal life.
The Hebrew noun chabburah translated “stripes”is singular in Isaiah 53:5, indicating one blow from God wounding Christ “for our transgressions,” bruising Him “for our iniquities”-not the many stripes of scourging that were a major focus of Mel Gibson’s attempt to show that Christ’s physical sufferings paid for the sins of all mankind. Do you really believe that what Christ physically endured in the scourging and crucifixion was equal to what sinners will endure for all eternity in the lake of fire?
There is nothing in any of the four gospels (other than crowning Him with thorns and mocking Him as a king) to indicate that Christ’s scourging and crucifixion were any worse physically than that suffered by thousands of others. That “Pilate marvelled if he were already dead” (Mk 15:44) contradicts the idea that Christ was scourged and tortured within an inch of His life. Thus the statement that “his visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men” (Is 52:14) could not be due to unusual physical beating, but to such intense spiritual agony that His features were so distorted that it was awesome to behold.
The idea that the physical suffering Christ endured at the hands of men paid for the sins of the world is neither biblical nor rational for at least four reasons: 1) Christ didn’t come even close to suffering more physically than any other person. Some men hung in agony for days on crosses, the Assyrians flayed their enemies alive, some victims of the Inquisition were roasted for hours over a slow fire, and the Inquisitors competing to develop the most excruciating torture-sometimes even bringing victims back from the brink of death, letting them heal, and then torturing them again; 2) if the physical “stripes” paid the penalty for sin, Christ’s physical tormenters would have played a vital role in our redemption and would in a sense be our co-redeemers (and what if they failed to torment Him enough to save us?!); 3) the punishment for those who reject Christ is eternal, but those who scourged and crucified Christ were incapable of inflicting eternal punishment; and 4) physical suffering could never adequately cause the moral and spiritual pain which must be involved in the just punishment of sin-in fact, it would obliterate it.
The error that physical scourging paid for our sins is also refuted by Scripture’s declaration that Christ “made peace through the blood of his cross” (Col 1:20), not “the blood of his scourging,” which took place before He was led to Golgotha. We are “justified through his blood” (Rom 5:9), which includes His death. Had he merely bled but not died, we could not be saved. The phrase “shedding of blood” (Lv 17:11; 2 Chr 29:24, etc.) always means death, not wounding as in scourging-and this is the only means of atonement: “without shedding of blood is no remission” (Heb 9:22).
Christ “by himself purged our sins” (Heb 1:3). While this could not be without the shedding of His blood at the hands of others, there was something which He alone had to do to purge us from our sins. That could only have been to endure eternal punishment at the hands of God which no man could exact from Him-something far worse than the “stripes” of scourging.
Christ’s spiritual sufferings for sin are beyond our understanding and Scripture only hints at them: “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me...? smitten of God, and afflicted...wounded for our transgressions...bruised for our iniquities...the chastisement of our peace was upon him...the Lord laid on him the iniquity of us all...for the transgression of my people was he stricken...it pleased the Lord to bruise him...thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin...the travail of his soul...poured out his soul unto death...he bare the sin of many...he hath made him to be sin for us, [he] who knew no sin...” (Ps 22:1; Is 53:4-6,8,10-12; 2 Cor 5:21), etc.
Christ’s sweating in spiritual agony “as it were great drops of blood” (Lk 22:44) and pleading with His Father in the Garden to be spared “this cup” (Mt 26:39,42) could not have been in dread of the scourging and crucifixion (as implied in the film) which thousands of others also endured. “This cup” from which He shrank could only have been that He would be “made sin for us”-that He would “bear our sins in His own body” and be punished by God to the full extent demanded by His justice for the sins of the entire world. During those three hours of darkness on the Cross, all the “waves and billows” of God’s wrath against the sins of all mankind rolled over Him (Ps 42:7; 88:7; Jon 2:3).
Isaiah declares that Yahweh “bruised [Him] for our iniquities.” It is unbiblical and irrational to suggest that the Roman soldiers were guided by God in each blow as God’s means of punishing Christ for sin. Christ said, “No man taketh it [my life] from me, but I lay it down of myself” (Jn 10:18). It is God’s law which men have broken, He pronounced the penalty and He alone can execute it in righteousness. Therefore, the payment for our sins could only have been through the punishment Christ endured at the hands of God, not men.
Christ had to be more than mere man: He had to be God manifest in the flesh to endure the eternal punishment due for the sins of all mankind in the three hours of darkness. We are told that He “by the grace of God should taste death for every man” (Heb 2:9). That had to include the “second death”-eternity of punishment in the lake of fire which is yet future for the lost. This could not have been at the hands of the Roman soldiers who scourged and mocked Him, but only at the hands of God.
From The Berean Call Newsletter Q&A (date unknown)
Thursday, February 23, 2006
Grace Through Faith † Faith Without Works is Dead
Reading certain verses out of James can seem a bit confusing out of context. For example,
"You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only." James 2:24
But if we read that verse in context, it is a bit more clear,
"And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, 'Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.' And he was called the friend of God. You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only. Likewise, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way?" James 2:23-25
But James is talking about pre-Christ people. And besides, verse 23 says that "Abraham believed".
Also, certain sources say that James was not intending his letter to be for unbelievers to become believers, but to existing believers. "My brethren, do not hold the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with partiality." James 2:1; "Therefore be patient, brethren, until the coming of the Lord. See how the farmer waits for the precious fruit of the earth, waiting patiently for it until it receives the early and latter rain." James 5:7
To me, this does not sound like he is talking to unbelievers. This makes a considerable difference. When James says that faith without works is dead, he is not talking about the faith that gets you saved. He is talking about people who are already saved, not showing it outwardly. It's just like the fruit of the Spirit.
"What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, and one of you says to them, 'Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,' but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. But someone will say, 'You have faith, and I have works.' Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works." James 2:14-18
So, of course, if you do not act upon your faith, then you are not showing it and it doesn't profit anyone.
There is no way that we can be saved by works. At all. So, I conclude that these two subjects do not contradict each other. They are just messages to different people. Obviously someone who is already saved does not need to be told that it is by grace through faith that we are saved. But neither will it do any good to tell an unbeliever that he needs to do good deeds, and have the fruit of the Spirit.
"What then shall we say that Abraham our father has found according to the flesh? For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. For what does the Scripture say? 'Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.' Now to him who works, the wages are not counted as grace but as debt. But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness, just as David also describes the blessedness of the man to whom God imputes righteousness apart from works." Romans 4:1-6
We see here that Paul uses the exact same scripture to promote that you can't be saved by works as James does in James 2:23. So, I believe that James was strictly talking about post-salvation faith/works.
"Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law." Romans 3:28
~By Kristy
-July 29, 2003-
Later note by Kristy:
The justification by works talked about in James is merely the sanctification process Christians go through, meaning the process of becoming more like Christ. Obviously Abraham couldn't have become like Christ in the sense post-New Testament believers can, but Christ was in existence at that time, ("Before Abraham was, I AM) and Abraham did go through a type of sanctification process, when he was growing and learning God's ways. SO, we must do work(s) to become more like Christ after we are saved, but it is apart from works (lest we should boast) that we are redeemed and brought into the family of God.
"You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only." James 2:24
But if we read that verse in context, it is a bit more clear,
"And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, 'Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.' And he was called the friend of God. You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only. Likewise, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way?" James 2:23-25
But James is talking about pre-Christ people. And besides, verse 23 says that "Abraham believed".
Also, certain sources say that James was not intending his letter to be for unbelievers to become believers, but to existing believers. "My brethren, do not hold the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with partiality." James 2:1; "Therefore be patient, brethren, until the coming of the Lord. See how the farmer waits for the precious fruit of the earth, waiting patiently for it until it receives the early and latter rain." James 5:7
To me, this does not sound like he is talking to unbelievers. This makes a considerable difference. When James says that faith without works is dead, he is not talking about the faith that gets you saved. He is talking about people who are already saved, not showing it outwardly. It's just like the fruit of the Spirit.
"What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, and one of you says to them, 'Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,' but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. But someone will say, 'You have faith, and I have works.' Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works." James 2:14-18
So, of course, if you do not act upon your faith, then you are not showing it and it doesn't profit anyone.
There is no way that we can be saved by works. At all. So, I conclude that these two subjects do not contradict each other. They are just messages to different people. Obviously someone who is already saved does not need to be told that it is by grace through faith that we are saved. But neither will it do any good to tell an unbeliever that he needs to do good deeds, and have the fruit of the Spirit.
"What then shall we say that Abraham our father has found according to the flesh? For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. For what does the Scripture say? 'Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.' Now to him who works, the wages are not counted as grace but as debt. But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness, just as David also describes the blessedness of the man to whom God imputes righteousness apart from works." Romans 4:1-6
We see here that Paul uses the exact same scripture to promote that you can't be saved by works as James does in James 2:23. So, I believe that James was strictly talking about post-salvation faith/works.
"Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law." Romans 3:28
~By Kristy
-July 29, 2003-
Later note by Kristy:
The justification by works talked about in James is merely the sanctification process Christians go through, meaning the process of becoming more like Christ. Obviously Abraham couldn't have become like Christ in the sense post-New Testament believers can, but Christ was in existence at that time, ("Before Abraham was, I AM) and Abraham did go through a type of sanctification process, when he was growing and learning God's ways. SO, we must do work(s) to become more like Christ after we are saved, but it is apart from works (lest we should boast) that we are redeemed and brought into the family of God.
Sunday, February 12, 2006
What is the Word?
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2 Timothy 2:15
"Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."
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Ephesians 1:13
"In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise,"
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Colossians 1:5
"Because of the hope which is laid up for you in heaven, of which you heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel,"
--The Word is Truth--
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Ephesians 6:17
"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God;"
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Hebrews 4:12
"For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart."
--The Word is Our Weapon and Defense--
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Hebrews 5:13
"For everyone who partakes only of milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe."
--The Word is Righteous--
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1 Peter 1:23-25
"Having been born again, not of corruptible seed but incorruptible, through the word of God which lives and abides forever, because 'All flesh is as grass, And all the glory of man as the flower of the grass. The grass withers, And its flower falls away, but the word of the LORD endures forever.' Now this is the word which by the gospel was preached to you."
--The Word is Forever--
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2 Timothy 2:9
"For which I suffer trouble as an evildoer, even to the point of chains; but the word of God is not chained."
--The Word is Free--
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1 John 1:1
"That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, concerning the Word of life;"
--The Word is of Life--
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1 John 2:7
"Brethren, I write no new commandment to you, but an old commandment which you have had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which you heard from the beginning."
--The Gospel has Been Preached Since the Beginning--
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1 John 5:7
"For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one."
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Revelation 19:11-13
"Now I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse. And He who sat on him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and makes war.
"His eyes were like a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns. He had a name written that no one knew except Himself. He was clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God."
--Jesus IS the Word of God--
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John 6:35
"And Jesus said to them, 'I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst.'"
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John 6:47-51
"Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life. I am the bread of life. Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and are dead. This is the bread which comes down from heaven, that one may eat of it and not die. I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread that I shall give is My flesh, which I shall give for the life of the world."
--Since Jesus is the Word, the Word is also the Bread of Life--
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John 4:10-15
Jesus answered and said to her, 'If you knew the gift of God, and who it is who says to you, 'Give Me a drink,' you would have asked Him, and He would have given you living water."
The woman said to Him, "Sir, You have nothing to draw with, and the well is deep. Where then do You get that living water?
"Are You greater than our father Jacob, who gave us the well, and drank from it himself, as well as his sons and his livestock?"
Jesus answered and said to her, "Whoever drinks of this water will thirst again, "but whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him will never thirst. But the water that I shall give him will become in him a fountain of water springing up into everlasting life."
The woman said to Him, "Sir, give me this water, that I may not thirst, nor come here to draw."
--Since Jesus is the Word, the Word is also Living Water--
Wednesday, February 08, 2006
Fearing God Because of His Forgiveness
"Out of the depths I have cried to You, O LORD; Lord, hear my voice! Let Your ears be attentive To the voice of my supplications.
"If You, LORD, should mark iniquities, O Lord, who could stand? But there is forgiveness with You, That You may be feared."
Psalm 130:1-4
I understand that God is to be feared, and I understand most the reasons, but how is Him having forgiveness one of them? The verse above it says that if God were to "mark" iniquities no one would be able to stand. So, I guess the reason is that, even though He has the power to judge us for every sin we do, even after we are saved, He doesn't.
Maybe an example could be this: Let's say you work for a really large corporation, and you really mess up on some paper work making them lose the opportunity to make hundreds of thousands of dollars. You're called to your boss' office, and you think you're dead (fired). But, he says it's okay, he'll let it go, no questions asked. Wouldn't you have respect for him and be very grateful? But, maybe you would also fear him, because you realize even more that you might do something to make him actually fire you, and you'll be more careful. It'll hit you that it's highly possible that you could lose your job eventually. You'll be much more aware of how you are doing things. He still has the power to fire you, and if he wanted to he could even use the mistake against you in the future.
Something else that might happen is that you will be so grateful for what your boss did for you that you will try to work harder, make his job easier. You would be kind to him, and because you respect him, he would respect you even more and every day think to himself that he made the right choice keeping you. In the end you would gain more than you had before!
So, I still don't understand 100% how it really works, but at least I put it out there. Maybe it can't really be explained.... Maybe you have to experience it. I don't know for sure.
~Kristina Y.
July 16, 2004
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